OEM Quickshifter - post install shift issues

[Ryswizzle]

Hello all, after some guidance as don’t know a annything really about bikes! 

I have fitted the OEM quickshifter this afternoon and it all went well(I thought), I set the length to 190mm as instructed in the instructions. 

I am finding since fitting it, it’s noticeably harder to downchange, even so that sometimes it just won’t go in. 
Does anybody know why this might be the case? Could it be that the length needs some adjustment? 

Any advice welcome as I am clueless as to what’s up? I don’t really think much can be wrong as obv the bike was fine before. 

I’ve added a video which might help, it wasn’t like this before. 

https://streamable.com/539uwv

[Triple Jim]

I'm amazed you can shift that well with the bike not moving.

[Ryswizzle]

5 minutes ago, Triple Jim said:

I'm amazed you can shift that well with the bike not moving.

Im honestly so new to all of this, is it not like cars? 

[Triple Jim]

Motorcycle transmissions are very different from car transmissions.  The gears are constantly meshed with each other, and the ones you want are selected by the engagement and disengagement of dog clutches in the transmission.  The dogs often don't smoothly engage if the gears are not moving.  It's common that if a rider ends up at a stop while in some gear like 4th, he has to let out the clutch enough to move the bike a little to be able to get back to 1st.

I have to wonder why you installed a quick shifter if you're very new to motorcycles.  I've ridden all my life and have never felt the need for a quick shifter for street riding.

Edited September 6 by Triple Jim

[Ryswizzle]

6 minutes ago, Triple Jim said:

Motorcycle transmissions are very different from car transmissions.  The gears are constantly meshed with each other, and the ones you want are selected by the engagement and disengagement of dog clutches.  The dogs often don't smoothly engage if the gears are not moving.  It's common that if a rider ends up at a stop while in some gear like 4th, he has to let out the clutch enough to move the bike a little to be able to get back to 1st.

I have to wonder why you installed a quick shifter if you're very new to motorcycles.  I've ridden all my life and have never felt the need for a quick shifter for street riding.

Ah I see, thanks for that, that might add up why the stationary shifting feels rough. I found it just not wanting to downshift into some gears while riding earlier. The explanation on gears is really insightful thankyou.

 

The dealer chucked the kit in with the bike so I thought may aswell put it on!

[Triple Jim]

The are some quick shifter users here.  Most are racers.  One might have some advice if you're having trouble shifting while riding. 

If you were to ask, and I realize you didn't, I'd probably recommend you take it back off and put it away for a year or two, so you can get the feel of selecting the gears and smoothly using the clutch.  It's a skill that is probably worth learning.

[M. Hausknecht]

A quick-shifter on a street bike is a toy. And, I should add, the OEM QS is of lesser quality for a  variety of reasons including the inability to adjust cut times and the level of force needed to activate it.

Don't expect the bike to shift well if it isn't moving, as Jim explained. As for your issue, it is important that the "arm" on the shifter is parallel with the "arm" on the shift shaft. You might have messed that up when reassembling stuff. The QS does nothing when downshifting, so it very likely isn't the issue. One more thing. It is ok to vary the length of the  shift rod, to get the shift pedal in the "right " position for you. Also, don't try to skip gears down-shifting. Let the clutch out before you try to down -shift to the next lower gear.

Edited September 6 by M. Hausknecht

[Ryswizzle]

Thanks for the advice and knowledge guys.

 

i adjusted it a smidge more and went out for a good spin and it feels fine now