r1limited Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 I thought this was interesting, pages from AMA mag Nov 17 on Understanding the crash cycle One of the statements was Quote 19% of riders who crashed had no motorcycle endorsement on their license and 5 % had no license at all That is an interesting statistic, does this mean that 74% or crashes were endorsed riders? Read on Lets find out Interesting as well is to read 51% of crashes a failure by the driver of the other vehicle with rider failure at 44% “Laws that forbid the carrying of arms disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes.” --Thomas Jefferson quoting Cesare Beccaria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beemer Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 I can't read all that small print so I have to ask about the 44% rider failure, I take it they lumped all riders together to get that figure because the last static I read about showed that the higher in age the rider was the less likely he or she was to have an accident and it was much lower than 44%. It showed the younger crowd to be most likely to have an accident. Beemer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r1limited Posted October 27, 2017 Author Share Posted October 27, 2017 “Laws that forbid the carrying of arms disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes.” --Thomas Jefferson quoting Cesare Beccaria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r1limited Posted October 27, 2017 Author Share Posted October 27, 2017 “Laws that forbid the carrying of arms disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes.” --Thomas Jefferson quoting Cesare Beccaria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r1limited Posted October 27, 2017 Author Share Posted October 27, 2017 “Laws that forbid the carrying of arms disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes.” --Thomas Jefferson quoting Cesare Beccaria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r1limited Posted October 27, 2017 Author Share Posted October 27, 2017 “Laws that forbid the carrying of arms disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes.” --Thomas Jefferson quoting Cesare Beccaria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r1limited Posted October 27, 2017 Author Share Posted October 27, 2017 27 minutes ago, Beemer said: I can't read all that small print so I have to ask about the 44% rider failure, I take it they lumped all riders together to get that figure because the last static I read about showed that the higher in age the rider was the less likely he or she was to have an accident and it was much lower than 44%. It showed the younger crowd to be most likely to have an accident. Ya limited on size here 1.9 mb, Sorry for the multiple posts on it. “Laws that forbid the carrying of arms disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes.” --Thomas Jefferson quoting Cesare Beccaria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guylee Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 3 hours ago, Beemer said: I can't read all that small print so I have to ask about the 44% rider failure, I take it they lumped all riders together to get that figure because the last static I read about showed that the higher in age the rider was the less likely he or she was to have an accident and it was much lower than 44%. It showed the younger crowd to be most likely to have an accident. That's cuz us young'uns are always doing DANK WHOOLIES. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beemer Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 20 hours ago, guylee said: That's cuz us young'uns are always doing DANK WHOOLIES. Ha, ha! I kinda figured that. I remember being young & dumb once myself. Beemer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r1limited Posted October 28, 2017 Author Share Posted October 28, 2017 There are a lot of stats, it says under Other Dangers 62% of "fatalities" where with fixed objects. They list this as fences, curbes, trees/poles mailboxes. Going on it stated over 95% of those 62% the first objetc was fixed. (We speek of Fixation and Looking through the turn) It reads further and I quote Quote By way of comparison, in multi-vehicle crashes, motorcyclists struck the other vehicle before striking a fixed object about 81% of the time This is the not paying attention keeping your bubble and exit option always open. “Laws that forbid the carrying of arms disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes.” --Thomas Jefferson quoting Cesare Beccaria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregjet Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 Read the Aussie stats for the previous 4 years and they are a fair bit different. It appears here that a lot of people ( male and female) are going back to motorcycles as they get older. The upper age stats have become very significant. Substantial increases over the last few years in this age group especially in the retired ages ( my lot). Lots of speculation , of course, why, but no actual research. My thoughts are that it is, at least partially, because they tend to buy cruisers and maintain their driver instincts, which suit them not well on a bike. A big problem with our stats is that they include non- on- roads accidents ( farm, dirt riders and even dirt racing stats) which skews the results ridiculously when examining "road toll". A solid proportion of these will of course include people with no licence, as it in not required. Go forth and modify my son...go forth and modify... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r1limited Posted October 30, 2017 Author Share Posted October 30, 2017 19 hours ago, gregjet said: My thoughts are that it is, at least partially, because they tend to buy cruisers and maintain their driver instincts, which suit them not well on a bike. A big problem with our stats is that they include non- on- roads accidents ( farm, dirt riders and even dirt racing stats) which skews the results ridiculously when examining "road toll". A solid proportion of these will of course include people with no licence, as it in not required. I think the first part is relativly true everywhere (No proof) just how I feel. On the second part this is how the CDC (Center for Disease Control) and the DOT (Department of Transportation) clumped it all together as well. Until recently this is the most cpmprehensive report I have seen.... “Laws that forbid the carrying of arms disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes.” --Thomas Jefferson quoting Cesare Beccaria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e30kawi Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 I find it funny that they used a picture of a camaro in the article. That's what I slammed into the side of at 60mph, driver turned left in front of me. It was yellow, but the guy replaced it with a black one after the accident... Now I wear a funny shoe with a one inch lift in it because my leg is short. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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