persydonkers Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 I always assumed id go with woodcraft rearsets but was curious what everyone is using and their experience with other brands. Also is anyone running stock bars with them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topazsparrow Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 heard the cheap chinese knock off ones are not bad. have not tried yet tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossrider Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 Woodcraft are fine rearsets, function flawlessly, with probably the greatest factory support I've ever found. Having said that tho, they are a little clunky looking in the FZ/MT version. They re-use some of the factory hardware. Something to consider if you're just using them/your bike for general purpose is rear set plates. They use the factory controls as is but simply relocate them, giving a miriad of options and are cheaper than rearsets. With factory handlebars/seating you can move the controls back w/o raising them which many find more comfortable and gives you a couple degrees more tilt into the wind blast with the added benefit of being able to stand up off the seat more easily. Or you can certainly raise them too if that's your bag. There are many rearset options from high end like Sato and Woodies all the way to the Chinese copies of same to pick from. Some are a cleaner looking unit but beware some can be more focused, meaning less comfortable and/or less adjustable due to intended track use. Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persydonkers Posted July 19, 2019 Author Share Posted July 19, 2019 20 hours ago, mossrider said: Woodcraft are fine rearsets, function flawlessly, with probably the greatest factory support I've ever found. Having said that tho, they are a little clunky looking in the FZ/MT version. They re-use some of the factory hardware. Something to consider if you're just using them/your bike for general purpose is rear set plates. They use the factory controls as is but simply relocate them, giving a miriad of options and are cheaper than rearsets. With factory handlebars/seating you can move the controls back w/o raising them which many find more comfortable and gives you a couple degrees more tilt into the wind blast with the added benefit of being able to stand up off the seat more easily. Or you can certainly raise them too if that's your bag. There are many rearset options from high end like Sato and Woodies all the way to the Chinese copies of same to pick from. Some are a cleaner looking unit but beware some can be more focused, meaning less comfortable and/or less adjustable due to intended track use. Good luck. Awesome info. I read a little about rear set plates after i posted this. Might check those out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zupatun Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 So far the Chinese rearsets I purchased work well on my XSR700, for street and trackdays. I do have questions about Chinese fasteners, but blue loctite is your friend. Matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topazsparrow Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 22 hours ago, mossrider said: Woodcraft are fine rearsets, function flawlessly, with probably the greatest factory support I've ever found. Having said that tho, they are a little clunky looking in the FZ/MT version. They re-use some of the factory hardware. Something to consider if you're just using them/your bike for general purpose is rear set plates. They use the factory controls as is but simply relocate them, giving a miriad of options and are cheaper than rearsets. With factory handlebars/seating you can move the controls back w/o raising them which many find more comfortable and gives you a couple degrees more tilt into the wind blast with the added benefit of being able to stand up off the seat more easily. Or you can certainly raise them too if that's your bag. There are many rearset options from high end like Sato and Woodies all the way to the Chinese copies of same to pick from. Some are a cleaner looking unit but beware some can be more focused, meaning less comfortable and/or less adjustable due to intended track use. Good luck. Have a link or anything to the plates? I can't find anything on google. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossrider Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 44 minutes ago, topazsparrow said: Have a link or anything to the plates? I can't find anything on google. I talked to JenSpeed at the racetrack about this and here's the latest. Andy Palmer no longer makes them and as far as we can find out no one is. There are a few originals floating around but it's tough to find them. JenSpeed is handling sales for what AP still makes. The high end lightweight hand laid glass and mounting kits come from AP. The everyday generic bodywork from Shark Skinz. If you're looking for top of the line rearsets I've seen no better than these; TXP Yamaha FZ-07 Adjustable Rearsets – TXP Store Visit the post for more. A little more costly but OMG for nice. These are inclusive and reinforce the frame due to their mounting design. I can't find any link to the rearsets plates as those have apparently gone the way of the Do-do with the advent of all the rearsets options available now. I'll keep looking but I have to get on track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossrider Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 If you can find these they were great. They tied the frame and the swingarm pivot together and allowed for a ton of adjustability as well as worked with stock controls or rearsets. Apparently the world has moved on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cleverriver Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 I generally prefer either woodcraft or vortex for rearsets. I have raced on both, and I generally prefer woodcraft overall. Vortex is superior if you run in the rain bc of the added grip, but boy do they chew up boots faster 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persydonkers Posted July 20, 2019 Author Share Posted July 20, 2019 13 hours ago, topazsparrow said: Have a link or anything to the plates? I can't find anything on google. Same. Haven't found anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossrider Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 I got word back from Andy Palmer. Altho they are out of production he has a few sets of rearsets plates left if anyone's interested. Contact him via email; andy@apmotoarts.com I posted pics of the beta version above. The left overs should be the 2nd gens like those seen on his website. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Global Moderator sorkyah Posted July 21, 2019 Global Moderator Share Posted July 21, 2019 I just received a set of the second gen a month ago They're pretty damned nice, but if you're gonna use em on the street, you will need to make an adapter for your kickstand as there is nowhere to mount it after swapping the plates ATGATT... ATTATT, two acronyms I live by. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossrider Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 8 minutes ago, sorkyah said: I just received a set of the second gen a month ago They're pretty damned nice, but if you're gonna use em on the street, you will need to make an adapter for your kickstand as there is nowhere to mount it after swapping the plates Thanks for the reminder. Us track rats forget that stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persydonkers Posted July 21, 2019 Author Share Posted July 21, 2019 11 hours ago, sorkyah said: I just received a set of the second gen a month ago They're pretty damned nice, but if you're gonna use em on the street, you will need to make an adapter for your kickstand as there is nowhere to mount it after swapping the plates Do you have a pic of them installed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephyr Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 I've just installed a set of ValterMoto and I'm quite impressed with them. They are more track oriented. The quality is tops as far as I'm concerned. Haven't put a ton of miles on them, so I can't speak to longevity or perhaps minor quirks that may arise over time. I think that they are way better than what woodcraft offers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Global Moderator sorkyah Posted July 22, 2019 Global Moderator Share Posted July 22, 2019 13 hours ago, persydonkers said: Do you have a pic of them installed? Not yet my dad's making the adapter for the kickstand for me ATGATT... ATTATT, two acronyms I live by. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persydonkers Posted July 22, 2019 Author Share Posted July 22, 2019 8 hours ago, sorkyah said: Not yet my dad's making the adapter for the kickstand for me Awesome. Curious on how much they change the riding position if any. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Global Moderator sorkyah Posted July 22, 2019 Global Moderator Share Posted July 22, 2019 Overall change is about 30mm up and 30mm back from stock So little over 1.125 inches With adjustable rearsets you can end up about 45mm or 1.75 inches total movement from stock ATGATT... ATTATT, two acronyms I live by. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persydonkers Posted July 23, 2019 Author Share Posted July 23, 2019 7 hours ago, sorkyah said: Overall change is about 30mm up and 30mm back from stock So little over 1.125 inches With adjustable rearsets you can end up about 45mm or 1.75 inches total movement from stock Hmmm. Doesn't seem like much, is it noticeable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thebadguy Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 On 7/21/2019 at 7:03 PM, Zephyr said: I've just installed a set of ValterMoto and I'm quite impressed with them. They are more track oriented. The quality is tops as far as I'm concerned. Haven't put a ton of miles on them, so I can't speak to longevity or perhaps minor quirks that may arise over time. I think that they are way better than what woodcraft offers. Did you get the 1.5 or 2.5? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Global Moderator sorkyah Posted July 23, 2019 Global Moderator Share Posted July 23, 2019 19 hours ago, persydonkers said: Hmmm">. Doesn't seem like much, is it noticeable? I will be using them with the Gilles rearsets And when I changed just those I noticed a big improvement, however I also have longer legs and needed the rearsets back further to accommodate my 33" inseam 1 ATGATT... ATTATT, two acronyms I live by. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephyr Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 14 hours ago, Thebadguy said: Did you get the 1.5 or 2.5? I got the 3.5 linked below to their website. I really need to get out and take a picture of them. Also need to do a legitimate review write-up, but life is funny how it keeps getting in the way. VMC Store - Rearsets Type 3.5 (Kit) Adjustable Type 3.5 rearsets are developed mainly for racing use, are entirely made with CNC machinery in Ergal 7075 T5 alloy and are the Top Range model used in the most important world racing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thebadguy Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 19 hours ago, Zephyr said: I got the 3.5 linked below to their website. I really need to get out and take a picture of them. Also need to do a legitimate review write-up, but life is funny how it keeps getting in the way. VMC Store - Rearsets Type 3.5 (Kit) Adjustable Type 3.5 rearsets are developed mainly for racing use, are entirely made with CNC machinery in Ergal 7075 T5 alloy and are the Top Range model used in the most important world racing... Wow that is way out of my budget. Look forward to hearing your thoughts on them though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcyclenut Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 I have lextek on my 7 and are very happy with them, plus they use the stock rear brake light set up which is a plus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephyr Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 21 hours ago, Thebadguy said: Wow that is way out of my budget. Look forward to hearing your thoughts on them though The VM 2.5 has more adjust-ability and includes brake light switch than the woodcraft for the same price (Sportbikes4hire.com) which someone on these forums has installed. I chose to go with the 3.5 because at the time it was not much more expensive ~$60-75 over the 2.5 and offered the most options to adjust. I was having some issues with the stock position bothering my knee/ankle on longer rides. School is starting back up soon, so perhaps as we get into later months of the year I can get out for some lengthier rides and give a proper write-up. One downside is that any replacement parts may be pricier than woodcraft and will likely be shipped direct from Italy so could be week(s) delivery versus a few days for the more well known/stocked woodcraft. If I wanted something that fit a budget and I wasn't such a picky person with regards to an exact/perfect position, then those Lextek that @vcyclenut has seem like a steal. I really was just worried about paying good money and still not getting the fit "perfect" for me which led me to spend more for the VM3.5. I also plan to keep the bike "for life", so the extra $pent isn't much considering lifetime ownership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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