Kiwii Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 (edited) I am still in search of the Holy Grail glove. For me it seems like every glove I have tried has some major flaw. What I am looking for: --Good protection (leather) --Overall ventilation --Good sensitivity (feel of the controls) --Overall comfort --Short Cuff (for casual street riding) Current gloves: After trying on many gloves, I settled with the Dainese X Strike. Protection is great. I am not a fan of the suede palm. I don't seem to get very good feel. Ventilation is lacking. Back up pair: MotoCross 100% Cognito These have excellent feel. Breatheable, comes in bright colors (hi viz yellow or orange), and fit is perfect like a second layer of skin. Huge downfall is protection. Looking for suggestions on your Holy Grail glove. At this point I am looking at the high end motoGP gloves like the Dainese Steel Pro In and 4 Stroke 2 short cuff. Also heard RS Taichi makes great equipment. Thank you in advance for your recommendation. Edited August 19, 2020 by Kiwii Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossrider Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 11 hours ago, Kiwii said: I am still in search of the Holy Grail glove. For me it seems like every glove I have tried has some major flaw. What I am looking for: --Good protection (leather) --Palm ventilation --Good feel (feel of the controls) (lamb skin palm?) --Comfort --Short Cuff (negotiable) Thank you in advance for your recommendation. You seek the Grail...a worthy quest... Ya, unfortunately you're gonna be disappointed as I too have spent a lifetime in quest of this nexus. My name is Roger, I am a shrubber. (Sorry) We simply cannot have everything; great protection and great feel and great comfort and great ventilation, pick any two. You are on the right track tho, the high end stuff offers more of what you seek. I too have owned many of the top brands but unfortunately every time I find my near perfect pair, I find they have been replaced by another model by the time I wear them out and they need replacement. My search continues. I have settled on a 2 pair minimum wardrobe. I have my track gloves, protective, bomb proof, semi comfortable and hot. And my street gloves, comfortable, breathable and poor protection. Tis the only way I find I can get close to the Grail. What is the airspeed of an unladen... 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beemer Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 Usually when a person wants good protection it spells heavy materials, sometimes one layer on top of another. I don't know of any glove that has good palm protection that breathes well and is thin for good palm feel. Maybe there is one out there but i don't know of it. Usually, it's summer time gloves that offer good palm feel because they are designed to be of thinner material to keep your hands cooler and almost always offer less protection, it's a trade off. If you're interested I have a summer type glove that has decent, not the best protection but has good palm feel and breathes better than any other glove I've used. Beemer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loch Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 I am a big fan of Five Gloves. I have a pair that has saved my skin a few times now, have held up pretty well other than some of the stitching letting go, and feel great on the controls. In hindsight I should've bought a size smaller, they do stretch a bit when breaking in. But once broken in they're silky smooth. There has to be a set in here that fit your criteria FIVE - ADVANCED GLOVES - Collection FIVE est le spécialiste du gant moto et de la protection de la main en sports... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7fold Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 Ah more people on a similar quest hahaha. I've had a few pairs, but I am still on the hunt myself. RS Taichi high protection (all-season, I forgot the exact model number) - great protection, Knox SPS palm sliders, floating carbon knuckle protector, extra leather/carbon flap for ulna protection, articulated fingers, great dexterity and pretty good feel...but they get sweaty Heroic shotry's - top notch materials, 100% kangaroo leather, stingray skin palm sliders, stainless steel knuckle protector, fully perforated for decent (but not great) airflow...but the feel just isn't there plus these don't work with my hands for some reason - the knuckle protector rubs on my first finger and I've gotten blisters from just a few short rides. Actually considering selling these as they're practically brand new. Held Spot - kangaroo palm with superfabric palm sliders, perforated fingers, knuckle protector acts as a vent and scoops in air (airflow is prett decent with these), visor wipe on the index finger (if you're interested in that sort of thing), fantastic feel. These are actually my new go-to summer glove for the time being, but I'd like more airflow especially on those humid days. The only con is these are a bit snug - might be just an issue with me though, I was between sizes and went down a size thinking they'd stretch a bit vs. going with the larger size and having extra material at my finger tips. I actually wanted to get a pair of Five gloves...but I can't find the SF1's in my size anywhere unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossrider Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 We should start a 'support thread' for people seeking gloves, lol. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinyribs Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 (edited) Try to keep this short as possible. A couple years ago I picked up some Alpinestars and was quite disappointed with them. Thin material. Loose stitching. Inconsistent sizing between hands. Don't remember the exact model, but it was their top of the line gauntlet at the time. Sent those back in exchange for some Held gloves. Titans, maybe? Same disappointments. When I went to try the glove on, my thumb caught a loose thread and released part of a seam. Contacted Held directly and they sent another pair for free. Cool. Musta been a bad day for that one particular sewing machine or something. Replacement pair was the same way and had the same loose threads. Contacted Held again and their response was basically " I don't know what to tell you". Contacted RevZilla and they said talk to Held. I repaired the gloves by hand ( better than new) and sold them off cheap. The tag on Held products says "Biker Fashion", or something like that, so I guess I shoulda took a hint. I finally went to buy the Dainese Four Stroke gloves I originally wanted, but damn near $300 for a pair of short cuffs is hard to swallow. Luckily, I found a used pair on eBay for $125. Messaged the seller and he said they had about 2years/25,000 miles on them, but still looked new. Bought them, and glad I did. They did still look new. I lowsided on pavement with these gloves. I was foolish for even riding. My throttle hand had 9 internal stitches and 13 staples across the palm, but I hadn't ridden in over a month. I went down and my hand got trapped between the grip and the road. The titanium knuckle slider held up beautifully and I walked away without a scratch. I hit a deer at 45mph on a gravel embedded road and did cartwheels before I slid to a stop. Lots of scarring on the palm and ulna sliders, but not a scratch on me. I've worn them on dual sport rides and have slammed them in to trees, ripped through briars, fell on jagged rocks and generally just treated them like I didn't give a shet. They're now going on 5yrs old, well over 40,000 miles, tons of rain, sun, freezing temps, pavement, gravel and pretty much just been through hell. The leather at the two fingertips I use for the clutch is just starting to show that some material is slightly worn away. Everything else still feels and looks new, aside from the scarring they've endured that I was protected from. Worth $300? Hell yes, in my eyes, they are. I sent Dainese a thank you email for making these things so bombproof. I never do things like that. I told them all the things I just mentioned above. The person I talked to said they were thrilled to hear the good news and offered me a replacement pair. I declined and explained that I bought the gloves used and they didn't owe me a thing. Also, I wanted to see just how damn long these things were gonna last, and that I was happy to support a company making actual riding gear and not biker fashion accessories. All my Dainese gear I've bought used. And all of it stands head and shoulders above the rest of my gear. I see some of their offroad textiles that appear way too flimsy, so I'm not gonna say they're a perfect company for everything. But for gloves on the street, I will only ride in Four Strokes. Edited July 31, 2020 by shinyribs 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinyribs Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 I see Dainese has the Steel Pro as the replacement for the Four Stroke loves. The glove is largely unchanged ( thank goodness!) apart from an updated cuff. If I was shopping for gloves I would be confident in those. Dainese gloves seem to run small. I wear XL in every glove ever, but I need a XXL for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Global Moderator Pursuvant Posted July 31, 2020 Global Moderator Share Posted July 31, 2020 7 hours ago, mossrider said: I too have spent a lifetime in quest of this nexus. My name is Roger, I am a shrubber. Maybe what you seek is the new hand condiment made of "shruberia" a flexible photosynthesizing green foam that repairs itself with new growth if you toss it in the sun when it's sweaty. It's made by TrollGlove, or Trolls, or something 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member fzar Posted July 31, 2020 Premium Member Share Posted July 31, 2020 45 minutes ago, mossrider said: We should start a 'support thread' for people seeking gloves, lol. Do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member DewMan Posted August 1, 2020 Premium Member Share Posted August 1, 2020 When they come out with lightweight, heated/cooled, offers complete range of motion with full touch sensitivity forcefield gloves with UV protection and that comes in an array of popular colors we'll all be happy... maybe.... DewMan Just shut up and ride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossrider Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 43 minutes ago, DewMan said: all be happy... maybe.... Nah... But that's the fun of it 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phanomenal07 Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 I can tell you right now the Diane's high-end gloves are bomb proof. I've been down in them and they almost look undamaged. I still wear them on the tra k and sometimes street. As far as the glove I would recommend is the rev it hyperion for feel. I don't know if they make them anymore but they are full leather i think the protection and airflow is good to great ish for a short cuff. But man I wear these because the tactile feel is amazing. I never take them off when I wear them. Not for pumping gas or pulling my wallet out or anything. I also crashed in these slide on my palm for a bit and suffered no damage to my hands. Also still use them. I'm considering buying the higher end rev it gauntlet glove to see if the palm and finger would feel the same and just more protection every where else. But I don't know if I feel like spending another 2-3 hundos on a pair of glove when both my glove still function well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurstFZ07 Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 Lee Parks Deertours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Mr.Puss Posted August 1, 2020 Premium Member Share Posted August 1, 2020 I started with Racer R-safe and damn if they werent built like a tank....the slight draw back was they're more track oriented. Heavy gauntlet style and insane protection features and materials like kangaroo leather and palm sliders etc...the compromise is theyre a bit too warm for summer riding which is all I get to do. So loving Racer quality as I do I bought some shorties, Racer Sprint....same outstanding impeccable quality, perfect warm weather ventilation and fit my mitts just right. Racer are my current holy grail. Havent tried Dainese but I do own/ love their jackets and would happily try their gloves. Great quality. Spend the money once on quality. Crush your enemies. See them driven before you. Hear the lamentations of their women. Fuss Life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDMT07 Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 On 7/31/2020 at 10:26 AM, shinyribs said: "...actual riding gear and not biker fashion accessories." Good point! So many "cool" looking "motorcycle" products just don't hold up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigturbomax Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 (edited) I wish i could be of more help. Ive come to conclude that you need good winter gloves, good summer gloves and a set for track if you track ride( I dont, yet lol). But a lot of things people said here ring true tho. Ive also looked ALOT and determined the holy grail glove does not exist, especially not for fat mechanic hands with stubby fingers. Ill say so far for winter use ive been using the cortech scarab 2.0 for almost 3 years now. Warm and very heavy protection. Not the best for feel but that would be a hell of an ask for a warm protective winter glove. For summer.....god i get a new pair every summer. Have found several with good feel and *some protection that are not too hot but none of them seem to hold up very long. Im about ready to buy some track gauntlets for the street and just be hot. At least ill have good protection then. And ive been wearing a hot perf leather alpine stars jacket in Texas summer for a long time. I dont trust my mesh jacket the same way. Sometimes comfort is relative i guess? Edited August 1, 2020 by Bigturbomax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwii Posted August 4, 2020 Author Share Posted August 4, 2020 On 7/31/2020 at 3:46 AM, mossrider said: You seek the Grail...a worthy quest... Ya, unfortunately you're gonna be disappointed as I too have spent a lifetime in quest of this nexus. My name is Roger, I am a shrubber. (Sorry) We simply cannot have everything; great protection and great feel and great comfort and great ventilation, pick any two. You are on the right track tho, the high end stuff offers more of what you seek. I too have owned many of the top brands but unfortunately every time I find my near perfect pair, I find they have been replaced by another model by the time I wear them out and they need replacement. My search continues. I have settled on a 2 pair minimum wardrobe. I have my track gloves, protective, bomb proof, semi comfortable and hot. And my street gloves, comfortable, breathable and poor protection. Tis the only way I find I can get close to the Grail. What is the airspeed of an unladen... Part of me knows this to be true yet I will continually hope for the grail and throw money at the problem. what are some current models you recommend or what models in the past have served you well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwii Posted August 4, 2020 Author Share Posted August 4, 2020 On 7/31/2020 at 5:58 AM, Beemer said: Usually when a person wants good protection it spells heavy materials, sometimes one layer on top of another. I don't know of any glove that has good palm protection that breathes well and is thin for good palm feel. Maybe there is one out there but i don't know of it. Usually, it's summer time gloves that offer good palm feel because they are designed to be of thinner material to keep your hands cooler and almost always offer less protection, it's a trade off. If you're interested I have a summer type glove that has decent, not the best protection but has good palm feel and breathes better than any other glove I've used. What is the brand and model of your gloves? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwii Posted August 4, 2020 Author Share Posted August 4, 2020 On 7/31/2020 at 6:44 AM, Loch said: I am a big fan of Five Gloves. I have a pair that has saved my skin a few times now, have held up pretty well other than some of the stitching letting go, and feel great on the controls. In hindsight I should've bought a size smaller, they do stretch a bit when breaking in. But once broken in they're silky smooth. There has to be a set in here that fit your criteria FIVE - ADVANCED GLOVES - Collection FIVE est le spécialiste du gant moto et de la protection de la main en sports... Which models have tried and which do you recommend? The SF1 looks like it could be a contender for H.G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loch Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 17 minutes ago, Kiwii said: Which models have tried and which do you recommend? The SF1 looks like it could be a contender for H.G. I've been wearing Five X-Rider for 3 seasons now, they're close to H.G. tier for street, and I think the SF1 might be a little better to be honest. I've beat these gloves up and they honestly feel just broken in. My only complaint would be that the stitching seems to be a little weak, I've had to sew up the seams a bit. The leather has held up phenomenally, I've gone down 3 times in these gloves and they're still ticking. I'm looking at getting a pair of RFX3 for track, and when my street gloves wear out I'll probably replace them with SF1 Imgur Post with 0 views. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobZilla Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 Man this really hits home for me. I’m always looking for the perfect set of gloves. I just end up with several pairs of gloves for different things. Just bought another new set last week for full gauntlet track gloves. I’m glad I’m not the only one who is rather obsessed with this issue! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossrider Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 39 minutes ago, Kiwii said: Part of me knows this to be true yet I will continually hope for the grail and throw money at the problem. what are some current models you recommend or what models in the past have served you well? I love my A* GP Pro's but they have been replaced with a model that neither looks good, fits nor functions as well. Also in Alpine Stars I have to order 3 sizes over, I wear a XXXL, sheesh. So my search continues... I like most Held gloves and the higher end Cortech work ok. I guess it really depends on fit to me and that requires I put them on. I'm always wearing someone else's stinky gloves at the track to see what's what. And when I can make it to the annual International Motorcycle Show every couple years, I try em on till I find what I want and buy 2 or 3 pairs of the damn things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Mr.Puss Posted August 4, 2020 Premium Member Share Posted August 4, 2020 Oh man, I should not be allowed to shop online unattended. Just last week I bought some Racer 'Sprint' which I absolutely love...now for reasons unknown Ive just ordered Dainese '4-Stroke 2'. I refuse to hold myself accountable for this purchase, therefore I blame you guys. Dainese 4 Stroke 2 Gloves Review (Updated Guide) - Motorcycle Gear Hub Looking for the best street motorcycle gloves with CE armor? Then read our internet's most-detailed review of the Dainese 4 Stroke 2... Crush your enemies. See them driven before you. Hear the lamentations of their women. Fuss Life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Mr.Puss Posted August 4, 2020 Premium Member Share Posted August 4, 2020 32 minutes ago, RobZilla said: Man this really hits home for me. I’m always looking for the perfect set of gloves. I just end up with several pairs of gloves for different things. Just bought another new set last week for full gauntlet track gloves. I’m glad I’m not the only one who is rather obsessed with this issue! Gauntlet track gloves you say? Have you tried Racer R-Safe? Crush your enemies. See them driven before you. Hear the lamentations of their women. Fuss Life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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