prediddy Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 When I purchased my bike the sales manager mentioned something about an additive that i should refresh every fuel fill up or so. Because he was the sales manger and was trying to push everything under the sun on me at that moment (extended warranty, financing 'deals', etc.) I didn't pay much attention to what he was talking about. But in retrospect he was saying that I could buy it other places, like Home Depot, not just the dealership. Also mentioned that Yamaha recommends adding it, in the owners manual. This was something that would neutralize or mitigate any potential problems caused by the ethanol in gasoline blends. So the kicker is, I don't remember seeing anything about it in the manual, and I can't remember what it was called to even look it up. Anyone have any ideas? And do you use it, how often, etc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest August BB Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Probably Sta-bil ethanol treatment (orange). I've never used it. As far as the manual goes, I know they recommend adding stabilizer for winter/long storage, not sure if it mentions anything about regular fill ups. Stabilizer for winter storage is the red Sta-bil bottle by the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member hobbs Posted November 20, 2014 Premium Member Share Posted November 20, 2014 He was referring to star brite. I've only noticed a difference on carbeurated motors, but it wouldn't hurt. A bottle goes a long way so I've been using what I have. http://www.starbrite.com/item/star-tron-gasoline-additive?category_id=699 Everything went braap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member hobbs Posted November 20, 2014 Premium Member Share Posted November 20, 2014 Also just fyi for anyone that didn't know but you more or less can't stabilize modern fuel. Especially ethanol blended stuff. Stabilizers used to form a layer on the top of the fuel in an effort to preserve it. Modern stabilizers don't work in the same way they used to. If I can find the sources I'll update the post, but just look into it if you're curious. The information is out there. Everything went braap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 I'm using this additive for the storage of my bike. It can be used non-storage fuel treatment of ethanol as well though. This is probably what the guy was talking about as it is Genuine Yamaha as you can see in the picture. The instructions are also in the pictures so you can read them and get a better idea of what it does. Sorry the pictures are a little blurry, but they work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prediddy Posted November 20, 2014 Author Share Posted November 20, 2014 He was referring to star brite. I've only noticed a difference on carbeurated motors, but it wouldn't hurt. A bottle goes a long way so I've been using what I have. http://www.starbrite.com/item/star-tron-gasoline-additive?category_id=699 That's the stuff. I thought it had 'star' in the name, but wasn't sure. So now the question is, Stabil vs Starbrite vs FuelMed differences, or is it all pretty much the same stuff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 All I know is FuelMed is a Yamaha product that Yamaha themselves push, so that's the one I would trust. I'm just an OEM kind of guy though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scordiaboy515 Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 He was referring to star brite. I've only noticed a difference on carbeurated motors, but it wouldn't hurt. A bottle goes a long way so I've been using what I have. http://www.starbrite.com/item/star-tron-gasoline-additive?category_id=699 absolutely.....been using this stuff for years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member hobbs Posted November 20, 2014 Premium Member Share Posted November 20, 2014 I think a bottle of star-tron or whatever is around $8, maybe $9. So if you try it and don't like it small loss. They all probably more or less perform the same, just up to the consumer to decide. Everything went braap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 The fuel med is about $5-$6 I think. Not to bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jokers Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 i use this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamb Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 I don't think it be worth it to run a fuel additive every fill up personally. If you run a top tier fuel you should have all the detergents the engine needs already blended into the fuel. I'd also be curious to know if these fuel additives affect the octane rating? If I was to run a fuel additive I think BG 44K would be the one I'd use. Even still would only be used every 5K miles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Quixote Posted November 21, 2014 Premium Member Share Posted November 21, 2014 A friend of mine is the parts manager at the local Honda dealers and he said his customers really liked Liquid Performance fuel additive and that it also improved mileage. The quality of gas here is inconsistent and I wanted something to keep the bike's fuel system and valves clean so I tried it in the Ninja 650R. I was naturally skeptical of the improved mileage claims, but what I found after using it in a couple tankfulls was that it really did improve mileage by around 10% and the throttle response was noticeably crisper. I used 1/2 oz per 2 gal in the Ninja for thousands of miles right up until I traded it for the FZ. So, I pass my experience along to you. I'm using it in the FZ-07 and this stuff does what it says it'll do. Here's a video of a comparison of fuel additives that sealed the deal for me. [video src=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_krjUxoHtk] I have no affiliation with Liquid Performance and receive no benefit from mentioned it here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yammie Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 if you let your bike sit for more than a couple of weeks i would use it..if you at least start the bike once a week ..i don,t think you need it..lot off additive will deterioate rubber parts if the gas sits without moving thru the system.. thats what i heard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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