medieval Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 This may sound trite but I'm having trouble with the bar end screws. They are Torx head, the T-40 wrench is too big and the T-30 wrench is a sloppy fit. What am I missing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cndnmax Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 Different bar ends? I used a hex key with vise grips on the end to remove my bar ends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmwpowere36m3 Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 Use a hex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkH Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 There are seemingly 2 sizes of hex that can fit in the bar end. Use the smaller inner one. I visit here at least once a week. Got any questions, ask and I will answer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmwpowere36m3 Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 The inner looks like a torx... but I couldn't find one to fit well. I used a 8 mm (IIRC) allen on the "outer" one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 Really, an inner torx? I just used a std allen key - can't remember the size. The entire weight unscrews from the bar on this bike. You could use a rubber strap wrench found in the plumbing isle of the home store Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviede Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 Ya I used a hex on the outter one 2015 Matte Metallic Grey FZ-07 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member jake Posted July 14, 2015 Premium Member Share Posted July 14, 2015 Metric allen/hex key get a set you are going to need them if you plan on working on your bike the set below has some larger keys for axle to adjust the chain I cant remember what size it is off hand.http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEILSEN-HEX-KEY-ALLEN-SOCKET-SET-IMPACT-1-2-DRIVE-LONG-5-6-8-10-12-14-17-19-MM-/191622364495?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item2c9d953d4f http://www.ebay.com/itm/CRAFTSMAN-6pc-3-8-drive-METRIC-Hex-Allen-key-bit-socket-set-FAST-SHIPPING-/131545256605?hash=item1ea0b5529d&item=131545256605&vxp=mtr Or these http://www.ebay.com/itm/Allen-56600G-9pc-Magnetic-Ball-End-Metric-Hex-Key-Set-/391074568981?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5b0ddc5b15 2015 FZ-07 2003 2014 GSXR 1000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cavedog Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 Different bar ends? I used a hex key with vise grips on the end to remove my bar ends. Sounds like you need a set of these: http://images.lowes.com/product/converted/099198/099198852263lg.jpg They are so nice.. Edit: I used an 8mm allen socket on a 3/8" drive ratchet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member jake Posted July 14, 2015 Premium Member Share Posted July 14, 2015 And don't forget to get the ratchet for the socket size you get, I'd go 3/8ths 2015 FZ-07 2003 2014 GSXR 1000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cndnmax Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 Different bar ends? I used a hex key with vise grips on the end to remove my bar ends. Sounds like you need a set of these: http://images.lowes.com/product/converted/099198/099198852263lg.jpg They are so nice.. Edit: I used an 8mm allen socket on a 3/8" drive ratchet. I have some. I just didn't feel like going to get them. They were on there pretty tight for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aeisan Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 Different bar ends? I used a hex key with vise grips on the end to remove my bar ends. Sounds like you need a set of these: http://images.lowes.com/product/converted/099198/099198852263lg.jpg They are so nice.. Edit: I used an 8mm allen socket on a 3/8" drive ratchet. ^^^ this Life is good on 2 wheels! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 Had a closer look at my bar ends (now in a box). And amazingly, they do have a very shallow Torx recess down inside that 8mm hex hole. The actual size is T27. Would not makes sense to use this over an 8mm allen socket however. There's just not enough depth to the hole. Couldn't even begin to guess why it's there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Global Moderator sorkyah Posted July 16, 2015 Global Moderator Share Posted July 16, 2015 Had a closer look at my bar ends (now in a box). And amazingly, they do have a very shallow Torx recess down inside that 8mm hex hole. The actual size is T27. Would not makes sense to use this over an 8mm allen socket however. There's just not enough depth to the hole. Couldn't even begin to guess why it's there. Possibly for overall torque spec. Torx bits transfer torque more efficiently than a standard hex by providing higher surface area for contact. Also less likely to strip when tools are used properly. ATGATT... ATTATT, two acronyms I live by. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 Had a closer look at my bar ends (now in a box). And amazingly, they do have a very shallow Torx recess down inside that 8mm hex hole. The actual size is T27. Would not makes sense to use this over an 8mm allen socket however. There's just not enough depth to the hole. Couldn't even begin to guess why it's there. Possibly for overall torque spec. Torx bits transfer torque more efficiently than a standard hex by providing higher surface area for contact. Also less likely to strip when tools are used properly. perhaps, but the depth of the Torx portion can't be much more than 2. or maybe 2.5mm or so. It's in there, but given the choice between a torx bit with little purchase and a nice deep hex hole - well, that's not a choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aeisan Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 That's what he said. 1 Life is good on 2 wheels! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 hmm, not how i read it, or re-read If there was no 8mm allen socket that teeny torx hole in the bottom was out at the end instead, we'd have a lot of folk (heh, heh, dealers especially) using vice grips to unscrew those weights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aeisan Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 Never mind, it was a joke. Probably over many people's heads. Life is good on 2 wheels! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medieval Posted July 21, 2015 Author Share Posted July 21, 2015 I got annoyed and since I didn't know if the barend was solid (so I could grab the outside) I got more aggressive. I used the T-40 Torx and my socket driver.....They are now in a box with the mirrors. I have installed bar end mirrors. Thanks for the replies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wong600 Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 Possibly for overall torque spec. Torx bits transfer torque more efficiently than a standard hex by providing higher surface area for contact. Also less likely to strip when tools are used properly. perhaps, but the depth of the Torx portion can't be much more than 2. or maybe 2.5mm or so. It's in there, but given the choice between a torx bit with little purchase and a nice deep hex hole - well, that's not a choice. Hello All, I just tried it with a Torx T27 (don't have a 8mm allen), and it totally stripped.. bummer. Yeah, seems like there's just not enough depth. I really tried to get right in there too ..with patience Gonna go out and get the 8mm. Thought this could help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rog Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 I am attempting to take this bar end off now. I have a nice set of T-Handle allen wrenches, the 4mm is too small and the 5mm is too big. How did someone use an 8mm? Anyone else use something else? I can't believe they are standard...ha. Everything else is metric. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rog Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 Oh, nevermind, I was looking right past that 8mm allen wrench forest to see the oddly sized inner hole (tree). thanks anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 I am attempting to take this bar end off now. I have a nice set of T-Handle allen wrenches, the 4mm is too small and the 5mm is too big. How did someone use an 8mm? Anyone else use something else? I can't believe they are standard...ha. Everything else is metric. not sure a T handle wrench will give you enough leverage to break those free. The threaded bolt part of that weight on the inside of the bar is pretty big - 14mm or something. Unless it's been changed, the OE weight on my 2015 has an internal 8mm hex socket in its end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 Oh, nevermind, I was looking right past that 8mm allen wrench forest to see the oddly sized inner hole (tree). thanks anyway yer referring to that very shallow T27 part at the bottom of that great big 8mm forest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakenrb17 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 Forget the inner very shallow T27 Torx bolt, it will stripped right away (know I tried it at first too). You need to unscrew the bigger HEX part of the bar end (not sure sizing) but put your (common HEX key) all the way in and apply some force (counterclock wise) and it will break lose. It's a big threaded bolt (that bar end) so it won't break no worries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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