fechner Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 Hi all, Are we supposed to be able to start the bike in 1st gear? I've got the kickstand up and clutch pulled in, why wouldn't the bike start? As soon as I kick it in neutral it fires right up. Oddly, I thought I was able to start it in first when I first got the bike, now it seems like it won't. I am a bit confused... Is there something I'm missing? Solution: Clutch switch came unplugged, see below handle bar for plug: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest unknown Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 Can you start it in any other gear? Check the clutch switch. It may not have been plugged in from the dealer or it could have come undone at some point. It's a 2 wire plug under the clutch perch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Global Moderator mjh937 Posted August 4, 2014 Global Moderator Share Posted August 4, 2014 Mine will only start in neutral too,me ven with the kickstand up. I am going to have the dealer fix it on Tuesday. Both the clutch and kickstand switches look okay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MXRider Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 I usually disable both switches anyway. Just twist the 2 wires together and it will start in any gear. Just make sure the kick stand is up before taking off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fechner Posted August 4, 2014 Author Share Posted August 4, 2014 Can you start it in any other gear? Check the clutch switch. It may not have been plugged in from the dealer or it could have come undone at some point. It's a 2 wire plug under the clutch perch. I haven't tried any other gear, I'll test it out when I get home. Will also check on the clutch switch. I'm pretty sure I have started it in first before, so maybe something did come loose. It's not a huge deal, but was concerning at first when I wasn't able to start it. Mostly annoying when I stall in traffic and need a quick getaway to avoid embarrassment! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Global Moderator mjh937 Posted August 4, 2014 Global Moderator Share Posted August 4, 2014 I just fixed mine. There is a plug right at the base of the clutch lever. Mine had come out. As soon as I plugged it back in it started fine in gear with the kickstand up. Check and make sure that it is seated well. If you are sitting on the bike it is just under the handlebar inboard of the mirror clamp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PearlWhiteFZ Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 I know if you are in gear with the kick stand down it will not start. It's a safety feature that my yamaha mechanic told me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fechner Posted August 4, 2014 Author Share Posted August 4, 2014 I just fixed mine. There is a plug right at the base of the clutch lever. Mine had come out. As soon as I plugged it back in it started fine in gear with the kickstand up. Check and make sure that it is seated well. If you are sitting on the bike it is just under the handlebar inboard of the mirror clamp. Good to hear mjh! Looks like you saved a trip to the dealer I'll check mine as soon as I get home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member V8titanpwr Posted August 4, 2014 Premium Member Share Posted August 4, 2014 I always thought this bike just wouldn't start in gear, haha, just plugged my switch in. Keep the rubber side down and the shiny side up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest unknown Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 This sounds like a much more common problem than I thought. Mine was unplugged from the dealer as well. I thought it was supposed to be that way at first but then I realized how dangerous it is to have it stall and click back into neutral. Looked at the manual and sure enough, there was entry about checking the operation of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fechner Posted August 4, 2014 Author Share Posted August 4, 2014 Ha, mine must have wiggled loose while driving! Plugged it back in, problem solved! Thanks everyone, this forum is fantastic. If it had come unplugged from the dealer, I would have assumed it was supposed to be that way. They must have half-assedly plugged it in and it worked its way out. I knew at one point I was able to start the bike in first! For future reference, everyone should check their clutch switch located under the handle bar: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest unknown Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 Glad to hear it worked out for ya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rotaryryan24 Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 Mine came unplugged from the dealer. You do or don't Then your dead. To order a tail tidy click One-off-fabrication.myshopify.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aeisan Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Mine came unplugged from the dealer. I'm just now seeing this thread because I got on here to search about this connector. I was just doing a couple things on the bike and noticed mine was not plugged in. I was all like "what the heck is this and why is it not plugged in?" haha. It has a little safety clip on it so that it shouldn't come undone. I would not doubt if mine was never plugged in from the day I received it. Life is good on 2 wheels! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novatiger Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 I can also confirm that mine was unplugged upon delivery. It must not be on the dealer prep checklist or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YZEtc Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Whoever assembled the bike from the shipping crate either forgot it or completely missed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NICKY NEON Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 I was saying what are you guys talking about cant start the bike in 1st gear? I can since day one I guess my dealer pluged mine in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aeisan Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Whoever assembled the bike from the shipping crate either forgot it or completely missed it. I'm willing to bet it's a larger systemic issue such as not being on the final cut sheet/checklist or something, if they use something like that. Way too odd for so many dealerships to not be doing it. (OK... Time to put away my ISO 9001 auditor hat haha.) Life is good on 2 wheels! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YZEtc Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 It's in the FZ-07 Assembly Manual. I have a copy of it. Ask some YZF-R6 owners if they got their bike with the right-hand handlebar not properly tightened down. It's being missed upon assembly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qjohnson Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 I usually disable both switches anyway. Just twist the 2 wires together and it will start in any gear. Just make sure the kick stand is up before taking off. Came here to ask about this because I put on an RSC lever and perch. didn't have to look too hard lol the answer was one of the first few comments lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MXRider Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 Glad I was able to help out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ralph Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 I usually disable both switches anyway. Just twist the 2 wires together and it will start in any gear. Just make sure the kick stand is up before taking off. It may start but the timing will be slightly retarded as with the clutch pulled in the ignition timing is retarded by 3 to 5 %. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MXRider Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 The timing changes with clutch pull? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MXRider Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 I usually disable both switches anyway. Just twist the 2 wires together and it will start in any gear. Just make sure the kick stand is up before taking off. It may start but the timing will be slightly retarded as with the clutch pulled in the ignition timing is retarded by 3 to 5 %. Do you have a source for where you got that info? There is no mention of it in the service manual and from looking at the wiring diagram the clutch switch runs to the starting circuit cut off relay and the fuel pump relay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ralph Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 I got it from a yamaha tech at the dealer during a discussion on why some bikes can cut out just as the revs are picked up to set off, I did wonder to but it also happens on some Suzuki's Cant find any other info on it for Yamaha but theres plenty for Suzuki and playing about with mine "it does cut now and then but getting less as miles mount" makes me believe he is right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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