gomeybear Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 So I am very close to moving on a deal on a new 2015 fz07 thats about 280 miles away from where I live. Do you all think there would be any issues riding this bad boy from the dealer to my home being that its new? (probably wont exactly comply with break process as it is mostly highway riding) Ive heard as long as you very rpm you should be ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caliesv Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 So I am very close to moving on a deal on a new 2015 fz07 thats about 280 miles away from where I live. Do you all think there would be any issues riding this bad boy from the dealer to my home being that its new? (probably wont exactly comply with break process as it is mostly highway riding) Ive heard as long as you very rpm you should be ok. Just make sure you're dressed for the weather, keep it around 65 (you will get fatigue from wind blast going that far for that long) other than that, the bike will be more than happy to take you home! I'd tell the dealer you're riding it for 250+ miles home and if they can just triple check everything on the bike for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xeon Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 You should be fine riding it back from the dealer, this scenario happens more than you think. In my opinion (everyone has their own), if you can vary the revs and load/unload the engine frequently in the first 25-50 miles, you should be good with the break in. I still recommend varying your speed by 10-15 mph every 15 minutes on the highway if possible or where applicable. If you stop for breaks every hour or so, letting the engine cool down a bit will help with heat cycles. Again, this is my opinion, others may disagree, it is the internet after all. Xeon 2016 Raven (White) ~ Akrapovic Carbon Exhaust / 2WDW ECU Flash / CRG LS Mirrors / Seat Concepts Seat / Givi Windscreen / OES Sliders / R6 Throttle Tube / Ohlins YA419 & NIX22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member norcal616 Posted April 27, 2016 Premium Member Share Posted April 27, 2016 I would rather trailer it home or in the back of as truck... If you are gonna ride it home just get an oil change before you leave the dealership...that factory fill oil is the look death... 2015 fz-07- Hordpower Edition...2015 fj-09- 120whp- Graves Exhaust w/Woolich Race Kit- tuned by 2WDW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simbadc650 Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 I rode mine home 100 miles away, comfy seat easy ride!! Enjoy it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdifabrizio Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 Have fun and do it right! http://www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm Once the throttle is cracked on, it is rolled on evenly, smoothly, and consistently throughout the remainder of the turn. https://www.facebook.com/groups/1738084489772201/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member blackout Posted April 27, 2016 Premium Member Share Posted April 27, 2016 I would rather trailer it home or in the back of as truck... If you are gonna ride it home just get an oil change before you leave the dealership...that factory fill oil is the look death...What would be wrong with the factory fill oil? 600 miles is the first oil change according to the factory. I would sure hope that they would know what is best for their engine.... Craig Mapstone Upstate New York Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmwpowere36m3 Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 I would rather trailer it home or in the back of as truck... If you are gonna ride it home just get an oil change before you leave the dealership...that factory fill oil is the look death...What would be wrong with the factory fill oil? 600 miles is the first oil change according to the factory. I would sure hope that they would know what is best for their engine.... Nothing wrong with it... broke-in hard and changed it at 120 miles. It was very dark (not that color matters) and a good amount of "shine" (metallic bits). After letting the bike warm up, I'd ride it hard for the first 20-30 miles (heavy throttle, accel and decal, keep RPMs a couple thousand below redline), before hitting the highway and then try to constantly vary the throttle (which can be annoying on the highway) and difficult if there is a lot of traffic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazyrandyxoxo Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 Have fun and do it right! http://www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm Holy crap. This is pretty dang convincing. I want to see comparisons of break ins now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member GAZ Posted April 28, 2016 Premium Member Share Posted April 28, 2016 Have fun and do it right! http://www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm I remember when I first learned html. This site reminds me of the 90's. Ohh, the great break-in debate. Much like the famous: does clutch-less shifting cause damage to my bike. I'll bite. Bouncing redline before 600 miles is not the best idea if you wish to have a long life out of your engine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmwpowere36m3 Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 Have fun and do it right! http://www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm I remember when I first learned html. This site reminds me of the 90's. Ohh, the great break-in debate. Much like the famous: does clutch-less shifting cause damage to my bike. I'll bite. Bouncing redline before 600 miles is not the best idea if you wish to have a long life out of your engine. To be fair, it's been a while since I read it, I don't believe he recommends redlining the engine... just WOT, heavy load, accel, decel for the first 25+ miles. I kept the RPMs a couple thousand below redline for the first 100 miles. You don't need RPM, just various loading. But hey, what do I know... I think break-in, oil choices, etc... are over-hyped these days. Engines, manufacturing, tolerances, quality has vastly improved from years past. Really not much to break-in anymore... rings, yes. But that happens very quickly. Otherwise, the rest of the engine will just "break-in" till the day it dies. The transmission is the only area that'll take time... but that just requires mileage and lots of shifting, no special procedures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beemer Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 True, just vary the rpm. and the bike should be fine, don't over think it or you will worry for nothing and keep it between the ditches. Beemer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twowheeladdict Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 I have flown and rode home new bikes. Make sure and do a presentation ride check of the bike. Don't assume that the dealer took care of all this. I do break in drills near the dealer on back roads before I head for home. I plan the first part of the ride on secondary roads and vary the RPMs and transmission gear I am riding in. I have flown up to 500 miles away doing this. I wouldn't ride on the interstate, but I don't find interstates interesting riding. 2015 FZ-07 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccam7374 Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 When I get mine it will be a 160 mile trip back home and I am sure I will be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member howworkclutch Posted May 13, 2016 Premium Member Share Posted May 13, 2016 make sure you leave the dealer with enough time to get home before they close, and make sure you have their phone number in case you need any "warranty work". besides that: ride the hell out of it. -HowWorkClutch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simbadc650 Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 I rode my 250 cc to a test rally, rode the fz07, told myself I'm not driving 100 + miles back 90 degrees on a 250cc. Took my Scully home that same day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigity Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 So I am very close to moving on a deal on a new 2015 fz07 thats about 280 miles away from where I live. Do you all think there would be any issues riding this bad boy from the dealer to my home being that its new? (probably wont exactly comply with break process as it is mostly highway riding) Ive heard as long as you very rpm you should be ok.There are different schools of thought on this. And I think that many opinions come from old traditions, but I tend to trust the engineers paid stupid amounts of money to perfect the machines they design. I would follow the recommended break in: Avoid prolonged operation above 5k RPM for 600 miles So if you can do that, you're golden. You won't ruin the bike riding it home, but if you have to cruise over 5k, you won't be following Yamaha's break in. And it's in Yamaha's best interest to help you break in to maximize life and power. Believe who you will about break in, but remember, a wise man will always ask why, and a fool will never have a credible/defensible response. I have read many reasons people say to do otherwise and I can easily debunk them with science (and much experience rebuilding engines). The biggest thing to understand is the parts polish nice and smooth during break-in. Some people say you need high cylinder pressure to fully expand the rings. This is absolutely false and it's clear if someone has ever built an engine. You must compress the rings to get them into the cylinder. Once inside they have an interference fit(rings press firmly against the cylinder walls trying to stretch out more). The reason you don't want to ride high RPMS is because the rings and cylinder wall are like... a rock on a piece of glass....they don't mate well, with gentle rubbing it slowly turns into a razor blade on a piece of glass, smooth as can be. High RPMS can damage the break in process because the high spots on the rings or wall, just like the high spots on the rock, exert the most force on the cylinder wall. These high spots generate A TON OF HEAT! You want to take easy so the imperfections of the rings and wall smooth each other out before you put high demand on them. But as always, do what you may. It's your bike and your investment Edited for clarity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmwpowere36m3 Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 "Prolonged"... I interpret that as, do not cruise steadily at 5k+ RPMS for a significant amount of time. Not that it can't be exceeded while accelerating for briefs moments. I agree with that. Ring tension isn't much... the seal is formed thru combustion pressure being driven around piston ring lands and pushing the rings out even tighter against the cylinder wall. As an engineer you try to do what's best... but there is always compromise (speaking from my experience). Engine life, health and performance are not the only variables. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
07echelon Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 You can ride it home. Take breaks whenever you feel like it. Get a feel for the throttle and friction zone in a parking lot for however long until you're comfortable. Keep a loved one/friend informed about your status. Have fun! Break-in wise it's really up in the air and every one will have an opinion. I've seen videos of hondas cbr600rr assembly factory, and at the end they rev the engine a good bit to make sure all is good. They did this with other car assembly factories, so I assume its an industry standard. The bike manufacturer will never recommend redlining your engine, since that would leave them open to easy lawsuits about someone who redlined their engine for 10 min, and broke it. Here's the video 2015 FZ07 Gallery: http://fz07.org/thread/4304/07echelons-gallery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caliesv Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 So did you ride it home? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beemer Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 What's taking so long? Are you walking it home??? Beemer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simbadc650 Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 Riding the bike home, best get you feeling like this song, cause that's what happened to me <3 Scully Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caliesv Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 What's taking so long? Are you walking it home??? Ha!! Ultimate brake in procedure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gomeybear Posted May 26, 2016 Author Share Posted May 26, 2016 Hey guys & gals thanks for the recommendations I ended up getting a 2016 silver and blurple model from selma texas which is about 60 miles from Austin.I didn't really have to fret with the long distance ride afterall. I actually already have about 800 miles on it between my girl and I riding ( I also ride a daytona if not there would be more miles on it). The bike is so easy to ride but yet still fun as heck. I'd post pics but it be no different than any other silver and blurple model, unless I posted my girlfriend on it and even then everyone has a doppelganger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caliesv Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 Hey guys & gals thanks for the recommendations I ended up getting a 2016 silver and blurple model from selma texas which is about 60 miles from Austin.I didn't really have to fret with the long distance ride afterall. I actually already have about 800 miles on it between my girl and I riding ( I also ride a daytona if not there would be more miles on it). The bike is so easy to ride but yet still fun as heck. I'd post pics but it be no different than any other silver and blurple model, unless I posted my girlfriend on it and even then everyone has a doppelganger You owe us a very long ride! And... Throw in a pic with her on it too, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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