optytrex Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 So checking the owner's manual, there's a section that indicates the break lever should be lubricated with Silicone Based Grease. I find it odd seeing as ever other section I can find only mentions Lithium-Soap-Based Grease. I couldn't find another post about this so: What's the difference (pros/cons)? Can I just use the Lithium grease I got/what's the worst that could happen? Thanks for all the help peeps! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madcofz Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 Silicon grease is best used around or on rubber gaskets or seals, other oil based greases can degrade rubber. You can use dielectric grease or silicon grease found in the plumbing isle at the box stores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member pgeldz Posted February 20, 2017 Premium Member Share Posted February 20, 2017 ^ This - Paulie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crsnhppr Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 I used some of the grease you can buy in the tubes from Walmart for my bearings, is lithium based and brownish. Everything else I have white lithium spray grease I just slip on everything else after it's been cleaned. I'm actually giving my new chain a go with the spray on white grease and so far so good, it attracts particles a little more but my cleaning frequency gets rid of that before it builds up too much anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 All of the rubber bits that sees brake fluid is EPDM - a rubber that does not like petroleum whatever. So hence the silicone recommendation. You could use synthetic grease meant for calipers like https://www.amazon.com/Permatex-24110-Ultra-Brake-Caliper/dp/B000HBNV6W on that lever w/o issue. Parts stores anywhere will carry this or similar. If ya don't go nuts with the stuff, I don't see why a good Li based grease couldn't be used on the pivot. But you should not use anything other than silicone (well, maybe teflon dry lube) on the actuation pin that pushes on the master's piston. As for the chain, I've been using a mix of 140W gear oil and white Li grease in my auto oiler on my Aprilia for about 15 years now. The current chain is near 12k miles and not needed a single adjustment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
level41 Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 Lithium grease (esp. chain grease/wax) has a product to clean the chain. I guess that product (thinner oils that evaporate), might be bad for the seals, but I don't think or believe the actual lythium grease/wax can do any harm to the seals. It's a lot thicker than silicone grease for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 but I don't think or believe the actual lythium grease/wax can do any harm to the seals. sorry, but that's just wrong - The rubber compounds used in a chain are not the same as what's used in your master cylinder or any other part of a system that sees Dot 3/4/5.1 brake fluid (Dot 5 is silicone, it comes with its own problems, but won't hurt EPDM) . Brake fluid eats paint and will dissolve the butyl rubber seals on yer average chain. Conversely, petroleum products (like lithium based greases, paint thinners, kerosene, even paraffin (aka "soap/wax" based greases) will damage anything made of EPDM rubber - the stuff used for roofing and hydraulic brakes/clutches) Here, have a look at this compatibility chart http://mossrubber.com/pdfs/Chem_Res.pdf it's yer bike. do/believe what ya want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregjet Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 If you are talking about the lever pivot, I use Tefgel. Stupidly expensive but unmatched is the right spots. Waterproof, heat proof, fine with rubber, incredibly load tolerant,, won't run and brilliant in areas where there is not large bearing excursions ( like a lever pivot or swingarm pivot). It is AWEFUL to apply as it sticks to everything. DO NOT USE ON THINGS THE MOVE FAST OR NEED TO FULLY ROTATE FREELY as it is antiviscous ( ie it gets stiffer as you try to move it faster) Go forth and modify my son...go forth and modify... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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