Premium Member bornagainbiker Posted April 7, 2017 Premium Member Share Posted April 7, 2017 I recently installed a Puig Naked New Generation Touring windscreen and would like to share my first impressions of this product. For reference I am 5'9" tall and my FZ is completely stock. What I noticed most was that the wind blast seems to strike a very specific area--right at my shoulders. I tested this by focusing on wind noise and buffeting: in the normal upright riding position, wind noise and buffeting seemed to be about the same as stock from the neck up, with reduced buffeting in the torso area. However, if I crouched forward just a bit, the helmet wind noise increased dramatically and helmet buffeting also got a bit worse. It looks like this windscreen will work well in the upright or the fully tucked position, but anything in between might be a bit of a rough ride. Give Respect To Get Respect https://jeff-galbraith.pixels.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martyinaustin Posted April 8, 2017 Share Posted April 8, 2017 that kind of sucks. i had a Givi that worked pretty well...but currently rocking the Dart Manta. i've had that baby up to untold MPH in many wind conditions and it helps so much. i'm 5'10" fyi, marty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Mr.Puss Posted April 8, 2017 Premium Member Share Posted April 8, 2017 Why does no one bother to post links any more? Crush your enemies. See them driven before you. Hear the lamentations of their women. Fuss Life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member bornagainbiker Posted April 8, 2017 Author Premium Member Share Posted April 8, 2017 Why does no one bother to post links any more? My bad. Puig Naked New Generation touring windscreen: https://fortnine.ca/en/puig-naked-new-generation-windshield https://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/puig-naked-new-generation-windscreen-yamaha-fz-07-2015-2016 Give Respect To Get Respect https://jeff-galbraith.pixels.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member bornagainbiker Posted April 8, 2017 Author Premium Member Share Posted April 8, 2017 that kind of sucks. i had a Givi that worked pretty well...but currently rocking the Dart Manta. i've had that baby up to untold MPH in many wind conditions and it helps so much. i'm 5'10" fyi, marty Actually this windscreen should work pretty well for me, as I ride in the upright position most of the time anyway. Give Respect To Get Respect https://jeff-galbraith.pixels.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Mr.Puss Posted April 9, 2017 Premium Member Share Posted April 9, 2017 Why does no one bother to post links any more? My bad. Puig Naked New Generation touring windscreen: https://fortnine.ca/en/puig-naked-new-generation-windshield https://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/puig-naked-new-generation-windscreen-yamaha-fz-07-2015-2016 Crush your enemies. See them driven before you. Hear the lamentations of their women. Fuss Life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregjet Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 The second linked one looks at first glance to be a good design ( aero wise). Did you get the smaller one or the second one? Looks like it needs some rear flow to stop vortex shedding though, or a spaced top screen. Go forth and modify my son...go forth and modify... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member bornagainbiker Posted April 11, 2017 Author Premium Member Share Posted April 11, 2017 The second linked one looks at first glance to be a good design ( aero wise). Did you get the smaller one or the second one? Looks like it needs some rear flow to stop vortex shedding though, or a spaced top screen. Here is a photo of the windscreen I have: Give Respect To Get Respect https://jeff-galbraith.pixels.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hugson2wheels Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 I recently installed a Puig Naked New Generation Touring windscreen and would like to share my first impressions of this product. For reference I am 5'9" tall and my FZ is completely stock. What I noticed most was that the wind blast seems to strike a very specific area--right at my shoulders. I tested this by focusing on wind noise and buffeting: in the normal upright riding position, wind noise and buffeting seemed to be about the same as stock from the neck up, with reduced buffeting in the torso area. However, if I crouched forward just a bit, the helmet wind noise increased dramatically and helmet buffeting also got a bit worse. It looks like this windscreen will work well in the upright or the fully tucked position, but anything in between might be a bit of a rough ride. I am 5' 9" as well. I had the touring version but didn't like the way it looked. I sold it and got the sport version and my findings are pretty much the same as yours (the same as the touring version). IMO i don't think the extra two inches of the touring made much a difference. Tucked in is where I see the biggest difference (in a good way). Although at normal highway speeds and upright it also helps keep wind off my chest and belly which is good enough for me. As soon as I lean forward a bit things get louder. That being said, I stay upright for anything below 70 mph and have learned to go past the "just a bit forward position" to a more forward position (semi tuck) for anything between 70 to 85 and full tuck for anything above 85. I use a Shoei RF1200. P.S. I also removed the rabbit ear mirrors and intalled CRG lane splitters in the downwards position (not sure if that makes any difference in air turbulence around the shoulder area) . If god created us in his image, does that mean god is an egomaniac as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregjet Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 Reminds me a lot of the elements of the Cagiva Raptor flyscreen , which is simply amazing. Bit more fold forward that may accelerate the flow in the troughs a bit much. I will need to get some flow behind the top of the screen upwards to reduce the top vortices. A top spaced screen would do that but in this case spacing the bottom of the screen 15mm up might be worth a try ( ie leaving an inlet slot. Visually you probably wouldn't even notice it had been done but it may smooth the top flow. Go forth and modify my son...go forth and modify... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregjet Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 double post Go forth and modify my son...go forth and modify... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hugson2wheels Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 That Givi windscreen looks nice! If god created us in his image, does that mean god is an egomaniac as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member bornagainbiker Posted April 11, 2017 Author Premium Member Share Posted April 11, 2017 Reminds me a lot of the elements of the Cagiva Raptor flyscreen , which is simply amazing. Bit more fold forward that may accelerate the flow in the troughs a bit much. I will need to get some flow behind the top of the screen upwards to reduce the top vortices. A top spaced screen would do that but in this case spacing the bottom of the screen 15mm up might be worth a try ( ie leaving an inlet slot. Visually you probably wouldn't even notice it had been done but it may smooth the top flow. Thanks so much for the great suggestion--I'll give that a try. Give Respect To Get Respect https://jeff-galbraith.pixels.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member bornagainbiker Posted April 11, 2017 Author Premium Member Share Posted April 11, 2017 Reminds me a lot of the elements of the Cagiva Raptor flyscreen , which is simply amazing. Bit more fold forward that may accelerate the flow in the troughs a bit much. I will need to get some flow behind the top of the screen upwards to reduce the top vortices. A top spaced screen would do that but in this case spacing the bottom of the screen 15mm up might be worth a try ( ie leaving an inlet slot. Visually you probably wouldn't even notice it had been done but it may smooth the top flow. I'm not sure if it's obvious from the photo of the screen that I posted, but the screen doesn't sit tight against the bike at the bottom--it's raised up a bit and allows airflow under the bottom of the screen. Give Respect To Get Respect https://jeff-galbraith.pixels.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yamahaha Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 After riding 1.5 seasons with no windshields, wife and I immediately fell in love with our Puig touring screens. So nice at speeds 100 kph+ ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregjet Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 I am pretty sure the bottom hole is too small to allow sufficient flow to help the top release. You will need an crossectional area somewhere near the inner curved settion by at least 10mm, so the flow is at or about the same speed as the edge release. I would try a 15mm space to start with. More than about an inch or so space and no better result and the experiment isn't going to work although you could try a different angle as well. . Go forth and modify my son...go forth and modify... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member bornagainbiker Posted April 12, 2017 Author Premium Member Share Posted April 12, 2017 I am pretty sure the bottom hole is too small to allow sufficient flow to help the top release. You will need an crossectional area somewhere near the inner curved settion by at least 10mm, so the flow is at or about the same speed as the edge release. I would try a 15mm space to start with. More than about an inch or so space and no better result and the experiment isn't going to work although you could try a different angle as well. . Thanks for the great info--much appreciate it. Give Respect To Get Respect https://jeff-galbraith.pixels.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member avanti Posted April 13, 2017 Premium Member Share Posted April 13, 2017 Most screens for our bike are mainly cosmetic additions, pure and simple. Imho, to have real wind protection would take a far larger screen than most of us would be willing to live with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member bornagainbiker Posted April 14, 2017 Author Premium Member Share Posted April 14, 2017 Most screens for our bike are mainly cosmetic additions, pure and simple. Imho, to have real wind protection would take a far larger screen than most of us would be willing to live with. I agree. I think most of us are just looking for enough wind redirection to keep from feeling like we're going to be blown off the back of the bike at highway speeds, and in this department the small screens succeed. Give Respect To Get Respect https://jeff-galbraith.pixels.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregjet Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 No wind pressure at all . No buffetting even with a peaked adventure helmet. Thank a designer at Cagiva ( Raptor 650) for the main upper design that does most of the flow work ( I added the lower area to increase the crossectional area). Go forth and modify my son...go forth and modify... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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