faffi Posted May 6, 2017 Share Posted May 6, 2017 The GOOD Engine - since I first began riding in 1980, this by far the best motor I've ever tried! Ergonomics - for a modern bike this is roomy and well laid out Brakes - this thing stops, is easy to modulate, and then there is the ABS to save your bacon if you get too excited The BAD Suspension - most jarring ride I can remember. Ever! Headlight - when properly adjusted for high beam, low beam barely exceeds the front wheel Instruments - placed too low, too close and on top difficult to read Switchgear - looks like toys and functionally flawed. Indicator hard to engage, horn too easy to engage, high/low beam switch stiff to flip Pillion - not suitable for grownups Rear wheel - too wide. A 150/60 would make the bike nimbler, more stable and help the suspension at the cost of looking a bit less butch However, for me at least, the engine makes up for everything. It pulls like a bomb from just about idle, doesn't vibrate annoyingly, is frugal, sounds fantastic - what more could you ask? This bike puts a grin on my face every time I twist the throttle and the rest lose significance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member blackout Posted May 7, 2017 Premium Member Share Posted May 7, 2017 Yup, engine is awesome! Craig Mapstone Upstate New York Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnakay Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 and here is me thinking the good the bad and ugly... http://i.imgur.com/P6A22bX.mp4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bugeyes Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 From my perspective as urban commuter primarily The GOOD Engine - Love it! Ergonomics - OK even for an older guy with knee probs Brakes - OK Agility - Flickable and easy to manouver in traffic Economy - Low insuranse and good milage The BAD Suspension - They all say so but it's OK for me for now but that might change Instruments - placed too low, too close Switchgear - never can find the horn button when I want it Wind sensitivity - I don't like this bike at high speeds on a windy day, compare to my old Bandit 1200 that always felt planted The seat - Slippery nut crusher seat, switched to the comfort seat and it was better Lack of storage - goes for most bikes these days though The UGLY Missing pieces - Needs a windscreen, frame sliders etc to look complete, looks like they were taken off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faffi Posted May 9, 2017 Author Share Posted May 9, 2017 I hardly ever use the horn on purpose, but I always hit it Going to try and turn the switchgear so that the horn button comes higher and the indicator switch up where I am used to have it. As to the seat, I have yet to slide much - I can place my bum wherever I want and it will remain there until a sharp hump bump me off the seat due to the stiff suspension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bugeyes Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 Interesting that you find the suspension stiff when I find it at the mushy side stock, with the sag set to 30 mm at the rear it's a comfy ride. Do you have aftermarket suspension? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faffi Posted May 9, 2017 Author Share Posted May 9, 2017 No, I have the stock shock. The spring is so darned stiff I bent my tool trying to adjust it to a lower preload setting. It seems to be sitting 3 notches from max. Compression damping is also harsh, rebound sorely missed. Can't wait for my Nitron to arrive. I'm 220 lb with gar, 200 lb net. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beemer Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 [div]THE GOOD I have a bike to ride. THE BAD I can't drink while riding it. [/div] Beemer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarmac Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 No, I have the stock shock. The spring is so darned stiff I bent my tool trying to adjust it to a lower preload setting. It seems to be sitting 3 notches from max. Compression damping is also harsh, rebound sorely missed. Can't wait for my Nitron to arrive. I'm 220 lb with gar, 200 lb net.I think it is set 3 notches from min, not max? I'm still confused by the stock suspension. There should at least be a basic guideline for settings (3=160lb, 5=180lb, etc). What is the guideline? It nearly throws me from my seat on big bumps, something even my POS Ninja 250 didn't do, but I can't even decide which way to adjust it based on this symptom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member DewMan Posted May 9, 2017 Premium Member Share Posted May 9, 2017 @tarmac I believe more helpful than guidelines would be knowing how to check your rider sag, which is also weight dependent. If you know how to properly adjust sag you can apply the principle to any suspension mods you make as well as on stock for a better ride. Here's a link to a video that describes how to check and set your sag if you're not already familiar with how to do it: https://fz07.org/thread/7442/another-good-sag-video Good luck figuring out how to fix your harsh ride. DewMan Just shut up and ride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member blackout Posted May 9, 2017 Premium Member Share Posted May 9, 2017 @tarmac I believe more helpful than guidelines would be knowing how to check your rider sag, which is also weight dependent. If you know how to properly adjust sag you can apply the principle to any suspension mods you make as well as on stock for a better ride. Here's a link to a video that describes how to check and set your sag if you're not already familiar with how to do it: https://fz07.org/thread/7442/another-good-sag-video Good luck figuring out how to fix your harsh ride. Yes, set sag first. Craig Mapstone Upstate New York Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faffi Posted May 9, 2017 Author Share Posted May 9, 2017 No, I have the stock shock. The spring is so darned stiff I bent my tool trying to adjust it to a lower preload setting. It seems to be sitting 3 notches from max. Compression damping is also harsh, rebound sorely missed. Can't wait for my Nitron to arrive. I'm 220 lb with gar, 200 lb net.I think it is set 3 notches from min, not max? Mine was adjusted by the PO. Don't know what tool he used, but it must have been solid stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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