MRH Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 I've been told that FZ-07s cannot accommodate slip on exhausts unless you literally cut the stock tip off. Is this true? Wouldn't you have to weld the new tip on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r1limited Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 Yes, Cut the pipe No, Weld Depending on the manufacture of the exhaust, there are instructions on how this is done. “Laws that forbid the carrying of arms disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes.” --Thomas Jefferson quoting Cesare Beccaria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 The exhaust is just one piece, there is no slip on to remove and change but is it possible to cut the "belly" of the exhaust and that put a slip on . You can clamp it without any welding and it will work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRH Posted November 1, 2018 Author Share Posted November 1, 2018 Hmm, ok. Sound's like it'd be easier to just do a full kit. I'm considering a Yoshimura system. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member norcal616 Posted November 1, 2018 Premium Member Share Posted November 1, 2018 Yoshi is a excellent choice... 2WDW sells exhaust+tune packages at a discounted price, major holidays deals are even cheaper... 2015 fz-07- Hordpower Edition...2015 fj-09- 120whp- Graves Exhaust w/Woolich Race Kit- tuned by 2WDW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRH Posted November 1, 2018 Author Share Posted November 1, 2018 That reminds me. Tuning...One cannot simply install the new exhaust and expect it to run perfectly, correct? Even thought there's an O2 sensor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossrider Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 Just now, MRH said: That reminds me. Tuning...One cannot simply install the new exhaust and expect it to run perfectly, correct? Even thought there's an O2 sensor? Get it tuned. You certainly could just pipe and ride it, BUT, a pipe and a tune is the smart play. Not gonna get 50hp but the rideability is phenomenal and it'll be feel like a new motor, well worth it. Get it tuned. Get it tuned. Get it tuned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRH Posted November 1, 2018 Author Share Posted November 1, 2018 Ok, I can do that. 2WDW offers the pipes and something called a custom ECU flash. Looks like a whole lot of electronics I can screw up. Does anyone know if this is tricky to use or how to use it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossrider Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 You put the pipe on and send them the ecu. They'll flash it and send it back to you. You plug it and enjoy it, no muss, no fuss. That easy. Way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRH Posted November 1, 2018 Author Share Posted November 1, 2018 Right. So the ecu plugs into the exhaust system to sample fuel/air mixture or something? And it also plugs into the bike's on-board circuitry? And in the meantime while I wait for them to send it back, it's safe to ride the bike? It'll be a long wait because I'm currently deployed overseas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Global Moderator mjh937 Posted November 1, 2018 Global Moderator Share Posted November 1, 2018 7 minutes ago, MRH said: Ok, I can do that. 2WDW offers the pipes and something called a custom ECU flash. Looks like a whole lot of electronics I can screw up. Does anyone know if this is tricky to use or how to use it? What @mossrider said. You just remove the ECU, send it in and replace it when you get it back. Do not power on the motorcycle with the ECU removed. It seems like some people have done that and got a check engine light. I had no trouble at all doing mine, getting the plastics off is the hardest part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Global Moderator mjh937 Posted November 1, 2018 Global Moderator Share Posted November 1, 2018 4 minutes ago, MRH said: Right. So the ecu plugs into the exhaust system to sample fuel/air mixture or something? And it also plugs into the bike's on-board circuitry? And in the meantime while I wait for them to send it back, it's safe to ride the bike? It'll be a long wait because I'm currently deployed overseas. The bike will not start with the ECU removed. That is the brains of it, and without a brain it is a zombie . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRH Posted November 1, 2018 Author Share Posted November 1, 2018 Ahh, I get it now. I wasn't tracking that I had to remove ...ugh. I wonder if it wouldn't be better to just buy the system and install here and then just go to a shop to tune it. Mail takes like a month to get from here to the US and back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossrider Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 Just now, MRH said: Right. So the ecu plugs into the exhaust system to sample fuel/air mixture or something? And it also plugs into the bike's on-board circuitry? And in the meantime while I wait for them to send it back, it's safe to ride the bike? It'll be a long wait because I'm currently deployed overseas. No. The turn around is only a few days on the ecu flash. The bike will not run w/o it, it is the computer that controls everything on the bike. The ecu is the flat black box u dr the red elastic strap. (Yours will be in a slightly different spot as mine has been moved) If you are uncomfortable doing the work any shop can handle the install in a couple hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Global Moderator mjh937 Posted November 1, 2018 Global Moderator Share Posted November 1, 2018 If there is a good local tuner that would work. 2wdw had a lot of experience with our bike, but waiting for a month for international shipping is not a great option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRH Posted November 1, 2018 Author Share Posted November 1, 2018 I'm deployed to Qatar and all the mail goes through the APO. So there's a long turn around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossrider Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 Ah, if you're deployed I'd just put the pipe on and enjoy it for now. Get it tuned when it's convenient, no danger to bike just not nearly as fun to ride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRH Posted November 1, 2018 Author Share Posted November 1, 2018 Ok, I reckon I'll do that. Will there be -no- performance gain without a tune, or just less of one. I'll be up front, I definitely want to up the HP, but I need this bike to make some noise. The drivers out here are nuts and a quiet bike is not conducive to other motorist's situational awareness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Global Moderator mjh937 Posted November 1, 2018 Global Moderator Share Posted November 1, 2018 You might lose a few hp without a tune as the stock fueling is for more back pressure, but I doubt it will be a noticable amount. You will gain a little power over a stock exhaust when the tune is done, but again probably not a noticable amount. I think people feel they have more power with a new exhaust because of the sound. The dyno charts show about four hp over stock for the Yoshi pipe. The tune makes a huge difference in power delivery though. You will be glad you did it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRH Posted November 2, 2018 Author Share Posted November 2, 2018 Ok, I'll get it done when I can. For now, I guess the idea will be mostly for aesthetic appeal and sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRH Posted November 5, 2018 Author Share Posted November 5, 2018 I had an idea just now. What if I bought a power commander, since tuning isn't a realistic option at the moment? Would that help any? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossrider Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 Just now, MRH said: I had an idea just now. What if I bought a power commander, since tuning isn't a realistic option at the moment? Would that help any? That would serve the same basic function. It's a fair bit more work but does offer some benefits over the flash. Just follow the excellent instructions and take yoir time. They're easy to program with readily available maps from their website too. You'd be done fooling around with it tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRH Posted November 5, 2018 Author Share Posted November 5, 2018 Cool, man. Thanks for all your and everyone else's help. I really love this little bike and I'm excited to start customizing her. But it's all new to me and want to make sure I know what I'm doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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