topazsparrow Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 TL;DW IPONE chain cleaner seems to be the safest and most effective when considering retention of factory lubrication under the o/x/z rings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruizin Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Just don't use WD-40, it eats the orings. Yamaha MT-10 ForumYamaha Tracer 900 Forum Yamaha Ténéré 700 Forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kylerhsm Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Great review. Learnt a lot from that. Think I'm going to order some Ipone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member fzar Posted March 12, 2019 Premium Member Share Posted March 12, 2019 Kerosene works well for me, I don't know or can't tell if it has affected the o-rings. I can tell you it cleans like a champ, to me anyway almost 19K miles and I don't have any issues on OEM sprockets and chain!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjg Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 11 hours ago, Cruizin said: Just don't use WD-40, it eats the orings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topazsparrow Posted March 13, 2019 Author Share Posted March 13, 2019 17 hours ago, fzar said: Kerosene works well for me, I don't know or can't tell if it has affected the o-rings. I can tell you it cleans like a champ, to me anyway almost 19K miles and I don't have any issues on OEM sprockets and chain!!!! I use kerosene as well, but if you watch the video it explains that kerosene slips right past the o-rings like a sieve. That means it'll dilute and wash out the bulk of the lubricant the o-rings are trying to keep in. Greasing your chain is to keep the o-rings healthy so they can keep the factory grease in. It's almost impossible to replace that grease. I never even considered that until the video, but it does make sense. I've got a new chain on my bike so I'm going to avoid kerosene this round and see if it makes a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElGonzales Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 I like the FortNine Videos, but at least they are an online store that sells motorcycle stuff and maybe I am a little bit wary. I don't think they would suggest to take a paintbrush (omg!)and a bottle of petroleum thats even cheap to buy at the next gas station and is enough for 10 cleanings. Won't say they are wrong, I like a good working cleaning spray, but this is something I think you have to keep in mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beemer Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 I would say they are probably right about which cleaners they tested are good or bad but I can't agree that "IPONE chain cleaner seems to be the safest and most effective when considering retention of factory lubrication under the o/x/z rings" since not all the chain cleaners on the market were tested. I don't know where Dupont's chain cleaner stands but it's o-ring safe and how they missed it is beyond me. Beemer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yamahazaki Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 I stopped cleaning my chain maybe 2 years ago. I just spray the dupont wax every 500-1000 miles and call it good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjg Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 7 hours ago, topazsparrow said: I use kerosene as well, but if you watch the video it explains that kerosene slips right past the o-rings like a sieve. That means it'll dilute and wash out the bulk of the lubricant the o-rings are trying to keep in. Greasing your chain is to keep the o-rings healthy so they can keep the factory grease in. It's almost impossible to replace that grease. I never even considered that until the video, but it does make sense. I've got a new chain on my bike so I'm going to avoid kerosene this round and see if it makes a difference. My opinion based, on Ari's video and Lemmy's video is that kerosene and WD-40 are both safe as a cleaner. You need something else for the lube after cleaning. Lemmy says kerosene is good: rest of the article is here: How to clean and lube a motorcycle chain - RevZilla WWW.REVZILLA.COM RevZilla's tips and tricks for the best way to clean and lube a motorcycle chain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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